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Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by centrop67 » Wed May 17, 2017 11:43 am

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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by Steve Gossmeyer » Wed May 17, 2017 1:41 pm

http://www.workingdutchshepherd.org/breed-history/

This describes the difference much better than that and gives a true history of the breed other than location difference and coat... you'll see many malinois came from the dutch shepherd once they eliminated any color other than brindle and you'll see the gsd and malinois both were used to bring the breed back from extinction to give us the dogs we have today

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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by Dutchringgirl » Wed May 17, 2017 3:38 pm

what a great video !!! I loved the puppies

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I had trained Thalie do "defend the baby carriage" My mal was so cool too.
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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by centrop67 » Wed May 17, 2017 4:05 pm

Thank you Steve - I think I once shared that history from its original source (sevenpineskennel.com), but the original link is broken.

Thank you for sharing the new link.
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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by Duke » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:50 pm

It was news to me that a Dutch and a malinois can be born in the same litter

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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by Steve Gossmeyer » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:09 pm

Duke wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:50 pm
It was news to me that a Dutch and a malinois can be born in the same litter
Yup! Brindle dogs are Dutchies and fawn are malinois

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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by TimL_168 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:57 pm

Steve Gossmeyer wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:09 pm
Duke wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:50 pm
It was news to me that a Dutch and a malinois can be born in the same litter
Yup! Brindle dogs are Dutchies and fawn are malinois
Hey Steve, try posting that on Facebook! Let me know, and I'll go get the popcorn. Lol.
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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by Steve Gossmeyer » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:00 pm

TimL_168 wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:57 pm
Steve Gossmeyer wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:09 pm
Duke wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:50 pm
It was news to me that a Dutch and a malinois can be born in the same litter
Yup! Brindle dogs are Dutchies and fawn are malinois
Hey Steve, try posting that on Facebook! Let me know, and I'll go get the popcorn. Lol.
Haha I hate fb and don't have one! Lol

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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by Dutchringgirl » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:28 pm

Steve Gossmeyer wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:00 pm
TimL_168 wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:57 pm
Steve Gossmeyer wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:09 pm


Yup! Brindle dogs are Dutchies and fawn are malinois
Hey Steve, try posting that on Facebook! Let me know, and I'll go get the popcorn. Lol.
Haha I hate fb and don't have one! Lol
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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by Dutchringgirl » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:28 pm

My old trainer had a fawn dog that was registered as DS
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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by TimL_168 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:11 pm

Don't we have a newer member here with a fawn DS? Utah?
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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by Duke » Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:35 pm

TimL_168 wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:11 pm
Don't we have a newer member here with a fawn DS? Utah?
This one?
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5322

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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by TimL_168 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:22 pm

Duke wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:35 pm
TimL_168 wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 9:11 pm
Don't we have a newer member here with a fawn DS? Utah?
This one?
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5322
Narp. It was a dude. I might be confusing venues.
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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by oddbird » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:12 pm

Steve Gossmeyer wrote:
Wed May 17, 2017 1:41 pm
http://www.workingdutchshepherd.org/breed-history/

This describes the difference much better than that and gives a true history of the breed other than location difference and coat... you'll see many malinois came from the dutch shepherd once they eliminated any color other than brindle and you'll see the gsd and malinois both were used to bring the breed back from extinction to give us the dogs we have today

Apologies for bringing up an old thread again if that is not allowed, but I found this very interesting. Introducing the malinois for SH, Tervuren for LH, and Laekenois for RH would suggest that the three sub-types of DS would potentially have different temperaments, correct? From what I have read, Tervurens tend to be “friendlier” than a Malinois would. I’m not familiar with the Laekenois.
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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by Steve Gossmeyer » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:37 pm

The difference is after those mixed were done the dogs have been bred back to dutch shepherds and so on and so forth to the point of washing out the temperament difference .. I can't speak of the rough coat since I've only met a few

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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by Dutchringgirl » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:49 pm

I had a mal and two DS, their temperaments are the same. the only Difference I notices was the Mal was always "ON"
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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by Duke » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:49 pm

Dutchringgirl wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:49 pm
I had a mal and two DS, their temperaments are the same. the only Difference I notices was the Mal was always "ON"
I've heard this too, i love that the DS has an 'OFF' switch

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Re: Mal/Dutch Difference (Video)

Post by Joxgirl » Thu Apr 26, 2018 5:40 pm

Steve Gossmeyer wrote:
Wed May 17, 2017 1:41 pm
http://www.workingdutchshepherd.org/breed-history/

This describes the difference much better than that and gives a true history of the breed other than location difference and coat... you'll see many malinois came from the dutch shepherd once they eliminated any color other than brindle and you'll see the gsd and malinois both were used to bring the breed back from extinction to give us the dogs we have today
There’s a ton of good info in that link. Thank you Steve.
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