Joxgirl wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:40 am I would do it just to do something different with Rogue.
Today when we played, I waited until she made eye contact before I threw the ball.
YES! This is exactly what you want to do when you want to train something. She cant do X until she makes eye contact, and you just stand there, say "LOOK" once and thats it, and as soon as she makes eye contact, reward with a ball or what ever. then hold the eye contact a bit longer and do that until she is comfortable with holding eye contact for as long as you say.
Its the same with anything else, stand quiet until she sits quiet,
Joxgirl wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 4:40 am
I need to change things up and keep my girl happy and stimulated.
I love this forum and all that it has to offer.
I glean many new ideas and insights. This breed of dog/bitch is amazing and I want to continue to do good by what they have to offer.
Re: Seeking help
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:13 pm
by Joxgirl
Thank you, Lisa. I value your thoughts and opinions.
Re: Seeking help
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:09 pm
by Steve Gossmeyer
Come to ny
Re: Seeking help
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:39 pm
by Dutchringgirl
Joxgirl wrote: ↑Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:13 pm
Thank you, Lisa. I value your thoughts and opinions.
Why???
Re: Seeking help
Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:34 pm
by Tennessee3
Rogue is a high drive dog so fixing things should be easy.
running or backpedaling away from your dog is huge for establishing a proper recall base. You running away from your dog swinging a toy in around > squirrel or interesting smells. Also a huge thing is restraining your pup to get them amped up then calling them to you. Get your husband to hold her on a leash run away swinging toy, stop turn around and recall.
Big mistake I made with my first dog is viewing a leash as “training wheels” rather than a remote shut off or immediate correction tool. My thought process went “well if I can work with her till she’s reliable off leash, then what purpose does on leash serve? I’m just wasting time”. Not helpful, you don’t ever want to give a order you can’t enforce. Get a tracking line 30-40 feet, let her get distracted & recall. Reel her in like a fish if you have to, but you’ve got to establish that when you say come you MEAN come & that’s right the hell now as quickly as you can get here. Her feelings on the matter aren’t important.
First 20 seconds of this vid show recall work, backpedaling, restraining.
Re: Seeking help
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:34 am
by Dutchringgirl
Tennessee3 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:34 pm
Rogue is a high drive dog so fixing things should be easy.
Love this book
you don’t ever want to give a order you can’t enforce.
This is the best piece of advice anyone can hear. If you cant enforce it dont work on it.
Re: Seeking help
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:23 pm
by TimL_168
It's the same with kids... And that advice is 100% on point
Re: Seeking help
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2018 4:05 pm
by Dutchringgirl
TimL_168 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:23 pm
It's the same with kids... And that advice is 100% on point
so true, i was thinking about that when I wrote it
Re: Seeking help
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:12 pm
by Susannah
Oh well. U have e collar? That alone when properly used shoud help u with. My dog used to take off 90 percent of time. After e collar, outside feeding and serious nosework she is much more luv. She also wants to be near me, so she sleeps right infront bedroom door. U just need to train and get nerves of steel, if its treats and toys, consider urself lucky, it is far easier to train a dog with high drive.
running or backpedaling away from your dog is huge for establishing a proper recall base. You running away from your dog swinging a toy in around > squirrel or interesting smells. Also a huge thing is restraining your pup to get them amped up then calling them to you. Get your husband to hold her on a leash run away swinging toy, stop turn around and recall.
Big mistake I made with my first dog is viewing a leash as “training wheels” rather than a remote shut off or immediate correction tool. My thought process went “well if I can work with her till she’s reliable off leash, then what purpose does on leash serve? I’m just wasting time”. Not helpful, you don’t ever want to give a order you can’t enforce. Get a tracking line 30-40 feet, let her get distracted & recall. Reel her in like a fish if you have to, but you’ve got to establish that when you say come you MEAN come & that’s right the hell now as quickly as you can get here. Her feelings on the matter aren’t important.
First 20 seconds of this vid show recall work, backpedaling, restraining.
Thank you for pointing me to this book. I am going to buy it today, with the smile choice to donate to the Dutch Sheps of course. I watched the video too. I used some of the idea and had some crazy play time with training Rogue. She loved it. Me too. I bet our neighbors have now confirmed that I’m crazy. Haha
Re: Seeking help
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:21 pm
by Joxgirl
Susannah wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 2:12 pm
Oh well. U have e collar? That alone when properly used shoud help u with. My dog used to take off 90 percent of time. After e collar, outside feeding and serious nosework she is much more luv. She also wants to be near me, so she sleeps right infront bedroom door. U just need to train and get nerves of steel, if its treats and toys, consider urself lucky, it is far easier to train a dog with high drive.
Rouge loves her treats and toys but there are moments her prey drive takes over when a crazy squirrel catches her attention, or lizard. I bought an e-collar. I haven’t used it yet.
Re: Seeking help
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:12 am
by TimL_168
I'm telling ya, the furry little critters are useful tools!! Go to a open space somewhere that you're certain there are no other distractions except for a couple tree rats. Hold her back. Let her see them. Let her get amped up. Move closer slowly until you're sure that if you loose her, the squirrel will make it to safety ( renewable resource). When you get to that point, Give her a very easy command. Sit, gib laut, etc. Get her to give you that tiny fraction of obedience and then loose the dog as reward. Build from there. It goes quickly.
Re: Seeking help
Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:11 am
by Joxgirl
TimL_168 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 25, 2018 12:12 am
I'm telling ya, the furry little critters are useful tools!! Go to a open space somewhere that you're certain there are no other distractions except for a couple tree rats. Hold her back. Let her see them. Let her get amped up. Move closer slowly until you're sure that if you loose her, the squirrel will make it to safety ( renewable resource). When you get to that point, Give her a very easy command. Sit, gib laut, etc. Get her to give you that tiny fraction of obedience and then loose the dog as reward. Build from there. It goes quickly.
That Amps me up just thinking about how exciting it it to do that with her. I will give it a try.
I would do it just to do something different with Rogue. 
