Fawn DS

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Fawn DS

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Just curious what the thoughts on a fawn mal colored DS is? Both parents are brindle.
Is it considered a dutch mal, belgian or DS? Are they frowned upon for not being brindle?
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You might look at this recent thread for info on your question.
http://www.dutchshepherdforum.com/viewt ... =13&t=3207
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All Dutchies are striped. Further, all true Dutchies have a dark base coat, black, with black face. The ones that are "tan based" have to much Mal mixed in them.
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Mark77 wrote:All Dutchies are striped. Further, all true Dutchies have a dark base coat, black, with black face. The ones that are "tan based" have to much Mal mixed in them.
What? :o
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Post by Christie M »

Good advise Karin!

Illegal Regal, in the last post on that thread, I go into the detail of the development of the breed, the genetics involved with color and how fawn can and does occur in Dutch Shepherds - including those from very "pure" FCI stock.
Mark77 wrote:All Dutchies are striped. Further, all true Dutchies have a dark base coat, black, with black face. The ones that are "tan based" have to much Mal mixed in them.
Yeah - there is nothing about that statement that is true. First, genetically, every Dutch has a fawn/red/tan base coat. Any black you see (with the exception of a mask) is the result of the presence of a brindle gene (Kbr). How much base coat you see show through is determined by the width of the stripes. Dogs that look predominantly dark have very wide stripes that overlap each other. Dogs that look primary fawn/red/tan have thinner stripes. Since what color you see most predominantly is ONLY determined by how the brindle gene is presented, it can have NOTHING to do with malinois in the pedigree because they never have or carry a brindle gene.

There have always been lighter and darker Dutch Shepherds. Since the beginning of the breed. I was told they were often culled, but they always have existed.
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Thank you for clarifying that Christie. :D
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