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I WILL be a new Dutch Shepherd owner on July 20th!!! Puppies are on the ground and a huge litter at 14! Very excited. I chose the Dutch because I like high drive dogs and my husband likes shepherds. We both have had GSDs in our past. I also am interested in search and rescue training. I live in the mountains of California and have two older Australian Shepherds. I do know that I have a job managing this pack. My husband is on board with it all. No kids. Both of us have flexible jobs. We are active folk but aging! ;-))
Still we mountain bike, hike, cross-country ski and my husband runs. I walk in the woods with the dogs 3 times a day and we are lucky to have US Forest right out the door. So that is it.

Other breeds that could be the source of your brindle dog

Post by Karin » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:11 am

We get a lot of inquires from people asking if their brindle dog is a Dutch Shepherd or Dutch Shepherd mix. Here are other breeds that could be the source of the brindle pattern. Brindle does not equal Dutch Shepherd.

Here is a list of breeds that can be brindle. I patched this together from on- line sources. Please add to it or corrected as I don't claim to be an expert.

American Staffordshire Terrier
Rat Terrier
Bull Terrier
BullMastiff
Mastiff
Boxer
Cane Corso
Great Dane
American Bulldog
English Bulldog
Old English bulldogge
Boston Terrier
Cairn Terrier
Chihuahua
Pug
Perro de Presa Mallorquin
Akita
Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog
Staffordshire Bull Terrier
Perro de Presa Canario
Dachshund
Dorset Olde Tyme Bulldogge
Dutch Shepherd
Grayhound
Whippet
Cardigan Welsh Corgi
French Bulldog
Anatolian Shepherd Dog
Scottish Terrier
Great Dane
Plott Hound
Treeing Tennesse Hound
Basenjii
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Post by Raven » Mon Dec 30, 2013 3:27 pm

Wait--but what if it has pointed ears? SURELY if it's brindled and has pointy ears it's a DS. No? Huh. Well, what if it's brindled, has pointy ears, and helps my kid with his homework? That's definitely a Dutch, right? :evil:

Sarcasm aside, thank you, Karin, for the post.
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Post by Dutchringgirl » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:39 pm

Sharon :lol: :lol:

Really, though, there is just way too much information out there as to characteristics and then mix them, now you have that much more.

Hounds act this way, working breeds act that way, and herding breeds another way.

Honestly, it really dosnt matter, I have two and they are at the opposite ends of the spectrum as far as characteristics so with in the same breed there are differences, so now you have who knows what and asking what kind of dog you have makes for a too loaded question.

Love each other and at the end of the day, breeding dosnt matter.
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Re: Other breeds that could be the source of your brindle do

Post by Raven » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:41 pm

Dutchringgirl wrote: Love each other and at the end of the day, breeding dosnt matter.
Spoken like a hippie. :D
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Post by Dutchringgirl » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:51 pm

Raven wrote:
Dutchringgirl wrote: Love each other and at the end of the day, breeding dosnt matter.
Spoken like a hippie. :D
you found me out :wtg:
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Post by gingerman » Mon Dec 30, 2013 7:42 pm

Hey, you all forgot the Cimarron, I thought I had something here with trying to match Ginger but upon more research ears are all wrong even if they can stick up sometimes, along with many other differences..
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I WILL be a new Dutch Shepherd owner on July 20th!!! Puppies are on the ground and a huge litter at 14! Very excited. I chose the Dutch because I like high drive dogs and my husband likes shepherds. We both have had GSDs in our past. I also am interested in search and rescue training. I live in the mountains of California and have two older Australian Shepherds. I do know that I have a job managing this pack. My husband is on board with it all. No kids. Both of us have flexible jobs. We are active folk but aging! ;-))
Still we mountain bike, hike, cross-country ski and my husband runs. I walk in the woods with the dogs 3 times a day and we are lucky to have US Forest right out the door. So that is it.

Re: Other breeds that could be the source of your brindle do

Post by Karin » Tue Dec 31, 2013 5:55 pm

Brindle Anatolian

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Re: Other breeds that could be the source of your brindle do

Post by Dutchringgirl » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:32 pm

Neat looking dog.
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Re: Other breeds that could be the source of your brindle do

Post by Asha » Tue Dec 31, 2013 7:50 pm

I thought I read somewhere that bridle was the dominant color "gene", is this true?
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Re: Other breeds that could be the source of your brindle do

Post by Dutchringgirl » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:04 pm

Asha,

There have been a few other talks of the coloring on here that are pretty informative. Do a search and see what you can come up with.
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Re: Other breeds that could be the source of your brindle do

Post by johninny » Tue Dec 31, 2013 8:27 pm

i had not the slightest idea that Anatolian shepherds could be brindle. could be an answer to the question about Rufus!
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Re: Other breeds that could be the source of your brindle do

Post by Tappy4me » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:22 am

Oh my, you may be right, Johnny! Some of the other breeds I've been looking at resemble him...but he's almost a spitting image of many of the images I've looked at of the Anatolians! :lol: Would definitely explain his size, and he really is a gentle giant! :lol: ALOT of the stuff I just read about them Rufus fits to a "T". Wow.

@Karin, I think this post is wonderful. Honestly, I never knew there were so many brindle breeds that could be an influence!
Owned by Flint (American Eskimo Dog) and Rufus (Dutch Shepherd mix) :)

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Post by Raven » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:47 am

We have a new member, Carolinagirl, who has a DS but also has two Anatolians. Not saying your Rufus is the latter; just letting you know that you may have a source of information for Anatolians on this site with a PM, keeping in mind that no one has a crystal ball.
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Tell us about yourself: I've had Belgian Malinois for years at my folks. I just got married, and a friend of mine who does search and rescue, had been keeping an eye out for Mali puppies for me. He came across a 9 month old Dutch Shepherd female pup who needed a home. She doesn't have the nerves to do the search and rescue she was intended for, but is perfect pet material. She's enough of a challenge to be alot of fun :)

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Post by Tappy4me » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:54 am

Raven wrote:We have a new member, Carolinagirl, who has a DS but also has two Anatolians. Not saying your Rufus is the latter; just letting you know that you may have a source of information for Anatolians on this site with a PM, keeping in mind that no one has a crystal ball.
Oh, definitely. That is good to know! I looked a bit closer, and did come across 2 Anatolian breeders within a 1 1/2-2 hour radius of the shelter we got Rufus. So, it's entirely possible, even if he's a mix of one of those and something else. We don't care one way or another what he is, it's more of random curiosity, and fun, to try to figure out something that he /may/ be. He's way too big and his proportions just don't fit a Dutch. :) I got a bit excited researching them to see something he looks almost exactly like.

Maiya on the other hand was 100% Dutch. Miss that girl :( She and Rufus would have been a BLAST together.
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In loving memory of Maiya, the best Dutch Shepherd. 2012-2013. At 14 months old, you had yet to live life to it's fullest. You touched our lives and will never be forgotten.

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Post by Raven » Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:17 am

Maiya. I remember. Maiya lives on, though. No doubt.

(I swear Thor "channels" my last DS when he does things that aren't him but were very much her. Sounds nuts.)


Enjoy Rufus and the new year together. :party1:
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Post by Tappy4me » Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:20 am

Raven wrote:Maiya. I remember. Maiya lives on, though. No doubt.

(I swear Thor "channels" my last DS when he does things that aren't him but were very much her. Sounds nuts.)


Enjoy Rufus and the new year together. :party1:
He is exactly like her in so many ways. It's awesome :) So no, it doesn't sound nuts!
Owned by Flint (American Eskimo Dog) and Rufus (Dutch Shepherd mix) :)

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Post by Carolinagirl » Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:50 pm

It's true that Anatolians do come in Brindle but that color is very, very uncommon within the breed. I know of only a few of them. Most are fawn dogs with black masks. A large boned brindle mix is more likely great Dane or Mastiff or something like that. temperament wise, Anatolians are at the opposite end of the spectrum frm herding dogs. They lack prey drive.....but do have a protection drive. They don't play like regular dogs either and are VERY independent thinkers and not very obedient. They are very smart but do not follow commands because they don't really see the point. They are poor schutzhund prospects because they do not see the point of attacking someone who really isn't a threat. So if a dog acts like a Dutch shepherd, it's very unlikely it has any Anatolian blood.
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Re: Other breeds that could be the source of your brindle do

Post by icvanstra » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:58 pm

Very early on in the life of the forum there was a post where Judith (I'm pretty sure it was her) put together a list of Brindle breeds.

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Post by Carolinagirl » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:40 pm

Also when trying to determine heritage of mixed breed dogs, think of what breeds are common to your area. If a breed is very rare in the area, chances are the owner of those breeds is not letting them roam around producing strays. In my my area, a brindle mixed breed is probably a boxer or pit bull mix. I am probably the only person in a 50 mile radius with Anatolians. But out west and in Texas, there are hundreds of them. So if a large fawn colored stray shows up at my local shelter, I'd bet $100 it is NOT an Anatolian mix. Shelters love slapping fancy names on stray dogs, I guess they think it helps get them adopted.
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I WILL be a new Dutch Shepherd owner on July 20th!!! Puppies are on the ground and a huge litter at 14! Very excited. I chose the Dutch because I like high drive dogs and my husband likes shepherds. We both have had GSDs in our past. I also am interested in search and rescue training. I live in the mountains of California and have two older Australian Shepherds. I do know that I have a job managing this pack. My husband is on board with it all. No kids. Both of us have flexible jobs. We are active folk but aging! ;-))
Still we mountain bike, hike, cross-country ski and my husband runs. I walk in the woods with the dogs 3 times a day and we are lucky to have US Forest right out the door. So that is it.

Re: Other breeds that could be the source of your brindle do

Post by Karin » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:09 pm

Since the boxer is probably a source of many brindle mixes here is one and then one of a shepherd/boxer mix head...
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