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Susannah
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Tell us about yourself: 29 year old nurse. 2 year old dutch shepherd at home and iguana.

Destroying

Post by Susannah » Sun Sep 15, 2019 11:10 pm

Hello. So my ds puppy is 3 months old, and.

- i go out, he urinates, and shits at the front door
-rips pillows, from the desk. I really dunno how cause its high but yes, one bunnyland when i came home. I was 20 min away, before, we were outside, he was tired.

I left 2 bones and treats before left.

So, what can i do, crating is illegal here, he was also fine before so teething? I just afraid what if he takes couch and chokes or something?

So what i do, puppy is very, very hyper, but good traits so easy train with toy. Treats wont work.

When wroting this, i went To cigarette and heard noises.
He tooked internet modem and throwing it all over.

This is very New, he was fine while back but now this started and it is getting worse, he takes all forbidden things when i am In toilet even. Yeah, i knew i get handful but i get the feel he is something Else, soo hardheaded, even u comman very straight he just likes the play.

So tell me, what can i do? And no e collars, Cage, all is illigal here.

So what have i tried:

Making him tired
Calming exersize
Bones, good chewing
Peepads all over
Everything, i really mean, Everything out. My place is like hotel room, without carpet
When he takes forbidden item i denied, and gave toy

And really, peepads? No he shits where he wants, peepads are only To bury ur toys.

One day i was Making his food, he started barking. I ignore ofcourse. But after i went To sofa, he comes, straight To leg, draws blood from bite.

Oh, i just love To hear ur puppystories, i feel like i am living with a demon. 😅

All my ds are always been adults, so, this is first of.

I have raise working gsd and lapland reindeer dog from puppy, but yeah, working gsd was so destructive so i had To make fences. She ate my leather sofa In one hour, completely. Age 9 weeks.

Lapland reindeer dog never did anything, only, he howled.
And its normal cause they use voice To herd reindeer.

But really, what can i do, plz help me. I really dont want her To continue this, die for it etc..

So i feel like i have done it all, and next really is that i have To buy ports, or so so he cant get To table or sofa. But i feel its the last option really, cause all my dogs are been fine adult, no destroying. Ds also, 2 of them, both were fine always freeroaming.

So, is this really just a phase?

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Re: Destroying

Post by Tim91118 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:27 am

First off if you insist you cannot crate, then isolate the pup in the safest smallest room in the house and put up everything when you are gone. This might be the bathroom. Have a nice personalized bed for him there. Maybe a crate with the door open that he can feel safe in and sleep.Put up everything he can get his mouth up if you put him in the bathroom including paper, towels,shower curtain etc. I would not give him treats and bones that will make him need to go. If you are home, keep him on a leash and do not give him free roam of the house. Watch him closer and correct when he wants to pull objects down. You have to be on top of things.
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Re: Destroying

Post by Tim91118 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:37 am

Also employ a neighbor or friend to come over and let him out while you are gone. Pups are needy.

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Tell us about yourself: Apparently I just adopted a Dutch Shepherd. My experience have been with Dalmatians. The shelter listed her as a 3 year old Dutch Shepherd, which truthfully I didn't even know was a breed. I picked her because she is so sweet and energetic. But looking at the forum, I'm wondering if I might have taken on more than I will be able to handle. I did reach out to s DS rescue and they say she does appear to be a DS. But so far she's a joy and though not trained is catching on quickly.

Re: Destroying

Post by ladyjubilee » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:50 am

I'm so sorry it's not going well. I can definitely relate, though Bramble isn't really destructive.

I got great advice here to check out Leerburg and to keep Bramble leashed to me until she was ready to be trusted roaming free. It really helped, though she wasn't a pup when I got her.

I think the bathroom idea is good. But...we had a lab/boxer mix who was a Houdini. He got out of everything. We tried the bathroom idea once.....and when we got home he met us at the door. He had gone Through the door. (BTW he also learned to open doors.)

Are any methods of confinement legal?
Pack: Peanuts-terrier mix, 16-18 years old, Bramble-Dutch Shepherd, 3 yrs
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Susannah
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Re: Destroying

Post by Susannah » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:59 am

Oh yeah, i tried that, leesh on with me at home, really, puppy fights like maniac.

And wont stop. Really, he is fine, sleeping at night he wont do anything.

And with me on room no, not anything bad really, ok, couple socks etc.

But when i go etc bathroom it starts, he goes through tables, Everything, rips of pillows, eats doorways.


And yeah, i had been thinking if this is start of the separation anxioty, cause he does all very bad when im not around


Legal confidement here.. Is like at least big room for dog. And i cannot do that, my apartment is poorly designed for dog so only room is bedroom and i bet he takes destroying there.

We were on the vet one day, cause he was choking. So i really need help, for that not happen again.

After 3 days, he shits object i think he Aten outside, i have nothing like that here so really, what.


And bathroom is so nono, he rips waterpipes there so, no.
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Re: Destroying

Post by Dutchringgirl » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:54 am

I am sorry you are going through this. This breed needs a home that they can be outside in a yard to play and train. An apartment is not really suitable for them. They destruct because they are high drive dogs and need a job and guidance and with out that, this is what they do. He is attached to you, you are his human so when you are not around he does not have any guidance so he will do it himself.

ignoring his behavior is not the proper thing to do, with any dog, if he is barking, he is telling you something. When someone talks to you , do you ignore them? No , you listen to what they have to say. Dogs are not different. when they talk, you listen.

He is 3 months old and this is going to get worse as he comes into his own and really becomes the protection dog they are meant to be.
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Tell us about yourself: Apparently I just adopted a Dutch Shepherd. My experience have been with Dalmatians. The shelter listed her as a 3 year old Dutch Shepherd, which truthfully I didn't even know was a breed. I picked her because she is so sweet and energetic. But looking at the forum, I'm wondering if I might have taken on more than I will be able to handle. I did reach out to s DS rescue and they say she does appear to be a DS. But so far she's a joy and though not trained is catching on quickly.

Re: Destroying

Post by ladyjubilee » Wed Sep 18, 2019 6:08 pm

Susannah,

I wanted to check in and see how things are going. Any improvement?

I've been trying to think of some practical advice that fits your situation. I don't have any real answers, but did notice the poo problem.

You mentioned peepads that the puppy isn't really using. My initial thought was to wonder if the timing for going out was matching when he has to poo. Pee accidents I kind of get, but not so much the poo. How long after eating is he being taken out on the leash to poo? I'm fortunate that I have a big backyard that is fenced that Bramble can use. But I had to teach her to use it. For a week each time she ate, I gave her 30 minutes (she was young but not full puppy when I got her) before we went out on leash. We didn't walk, other to the poo spot, or play. I didn't respond to any interaction attempts until she pooped THEN she got a treat and play. It took her a week. Now she takes care of things on her own, and prefers a bit of privacy to do it (aka she waits till no one is looking).

It just seems that if poo is happening inside, the timing may be a bit off from eating to going out.

With that I wondered about the pads. First, is the goal for the puppy to keep using the pad or is the pad a tool for training? I'll be honest, I've only really used pee pads in the case of one of my Dals with neurologic damage related incontinence. We basic put pads everywhere she liked to lay because as she aged she could no longer control her functions. That said, if puppy is using the pads to hide toys, it seems puppy has not made the connection between pee and pad (or was taken from mom too soon and didn't learn to keep the bed clean.) Has he appropriately used the pad? If not, ugh this is so gross, and I don't want to use an euphemism given the language difference, have you put some pee or poo on a pad so that the pup can smell the purpose?

I'm really sorry to hear about the vet visit, and I so don't know what that picture is :) I know it must be very stressful. Since you can't confine, how are you managing the 24/7 eyes on?
Pack: Peanuts-terrier mix, 16-18 years old, Bramble-Dutch Shepherd, 3 yrs
Location: NC

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Re: Destroying

Post by Dutchringgirl » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:37 pm

pee pads dont work, they just encourage peeing in the house. You must take them out every 15 minutes for them to go and then slowly increase it as they can hold it.
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Tell us about yourself: Apparently I just adopted a Dutch Shepherd. My experience have been with Dalmatians. The shelter listed her as a 3 year old Dutch Shepherd, which truthfully I didn't even know was a breed. I picked her because she is so sweet and energetic. But looking at the forum, I'm wondering if I might have taken on more than I will be able to handle. I did reach out to s DS rescue and they say she does appear to be a DS. But so far she's a joy and though not trained is catching on quickly.

Re: Destroying

Post by ladyjubilee » Wed Sep 18, 2019 7:49 pm

Wow every 15 minutes....this is why I like older dogs ;)
Pack: Peanuts-terrier mix, 16-18 years old, Bramble-Dutch Shepherd, 3 yrs
Location: NC

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Re: Destroying

Post by Tim91118 » Wed Sep 18, 2019 8:53 pm

More like every 10 minutes....lol

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Re: Destroying

Post by Dutchringgirl » Wed Sep 18, 2019 10:42 pm

Do I hear 5???
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Re: Destroying

Post by Tim91118 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:21 pm

How’s this pup doing Susannah ?

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Re: Destroying

Post by Diang » Sun Oct 13, 2019 10:15 pm

My boy has plucked out an electrical socket in my atempt to live him free in the house while i am sleeping. I got your six

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