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KNPV, Schutzhund, Ring, PSA, etc - General Discussion
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ICE
Green Dog
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Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:32 am
Tell us about yourself: I have a 12 week old dutch shepherd that my trainer got for me to train in schutzhund. This is my 1st dutch shepherd, I have always had german shepherds. Currently, I have 4 dogs.

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Post by ICE » Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:20 pm

centrop67 wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:18 pm
I thought it went to APA this year.
that is actually the new American Schutzhund. They are just getting started.
http://leerburg.com/blog/2019/10/28/american-schutzhund-something-old-something-new-something-american/
Patty and Ice

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centrop67
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Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:42 pm
Tell us about yourself: Accidental DS rescuer. Human companion to Radar and Leela. Owner of the site, looking to make this the top site for information and discussion on Dutch Shepherds.
Location: Cutler Bay, FL, USA

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Post by centrop67 » Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:38 pm

Thanks Patty - there is an HTTPS link to that, so I am making it clickable here -> https://leerburg.com/blog/2019/10/28/am ... -american/
Michael
The pack -> Radar (DS), Leela (Mal?), and Karen (Human) - Cutler Bay, FL USA
RIP: Tequila and Snickers
If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers

TimL_168
Working Dog
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Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:11 pm
Tell us about yourself: I am: a father of 2 boys, a carpenter, hunter, runner. We have extensive experience with sled dogs, shepherd mixes, a wolf hybrid, and our current dog a 95# long haired Shiloh Shepherd. We added Endeavor in April 2016. She was not working out in HRD. I train for game recovery and general utility.
Location: central MD

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Post by TimL_168 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:55 am

The sport tracking is cool... Sometimes the lessons for the dog are useful. But trailing over varied terrain; often the scent doesn't lay where the footsteps were. Honestly, I think this is where I effed up my old dog. When I realized she could trail, I looked into and started training IPO style tracking. I think it made it too hard for her, and without the necessary working drive to keep looking, she just shut down when it got difficult.
Tim L.
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TimL_168
Working Dog
Posts: 1044
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:11 pm
Tell us about yourself: I am: a father of 2 boys, a carpenter, hunter, runner. We have extensive experience with sled dogs, shepherd mixes, a wolf hybrid, and our current dog a 95# long haired Shiloh Shepherd. We added Endeavor in April 2016. She was not working out in HRD. I train for game recovery and general utility.
Location: central MD

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Post by TimL_168 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:56 am

That's not too say so all that I don't appreciate the hard work that goes into the discipline!
Tim L.
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ladyjubilee
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Joined: Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:00 am
Tell us about yourself: Apparently I just adopted a Dutch Shepherd. My experience have been with Dalmatians. The shelter listed her as a 3 year old Dutch Shepherd, which truthfully I didn't even know was a breed. I picked her because she is so sweet and energetic. But looking at the forum, I'm wondering if I might have taken on more than I will be able to handle. I did reach out to s DS rescue and they say she does appear to be a DS. But so far she's a joy and though not trained is catching on quickly.

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Post by ladyjubilee » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:52 am

So which method is more likely to actually find what the dog is trying to find? One of the tasks Bramble is going to learn is to find my son on command. I'd didn't know there were different ways to search so didn't ask any questions.
Pack: Peanuts-terrier mix, 16-18 years old, Bramble-Dutch Shepherd, 3 yrs
Location: NC

TimL_168
Working Dog
Posts: 1044
Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:11 pm
Tell us about yourself: I am: a father of 2 boys, a carpenter, hunter, runner. We have extensive experience with sled dogs, shepherd mixes, a wolf hybrid, and our current dog a 95# long haired Shiloh Shepherd. We added Endeavor in April 2016. She was not working out in HRD. I train for game recovery and general utility.
Location: central MD

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Post by TimL_168 » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:07 pm

That'll probably start an argument :roll:
I really believe tracking through drive is the most effective way to go search for and find something that's missing. Gotta get in to work now. I can get into the reasons later on
Tim L.
Aurora(Shiloh) Endeavor

ICE
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Posts: 210
Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:32 am
Tell us about yourself: I have a 12 week old dutch shepherd that my trainer got for me to train in schutzhund. This is my 1st dutch shepherd, I have always had german shepherds. Currently, I have 4 dogs.

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Post by ICE » Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:08 pm

ladyjubilee wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:52 am
So which method is more likely to actually find what the dog is trying to find? One of the tasks Bramble is going to learn is to find my son on command. I'd didn't know there were different ways to search so didn't ask any questions.
With my limited experience in mind, I would say the trailing or SAR is the best method for trying to find your son. The IPO/IGP method is more for sport as we are judged on the dogs pace, form and nose to the ground at all times. It is a big no no in sport for a dog to lift his head and start running toward the target...
Patty and Ice

ladyjubilee
Training Dog
Posts: 259
Joined: Fri Nov 23, 2018 4:00 am
Tell us about yourself: Apparently I just adopted a Dutch Shepherd. My experience have been with Dalmatians. The shelter listed her as a 3 year old Dutch Shepherd, which truthfully I didn't even know was a breed. I picked her because she is so sweet and energetic. But looking at the forum, I'm wondering if I might have taken on more than I will be able to handle. I did reach out to s DS rescue and they say she does appear to be a DS. But so far she's a joy and though not trained is catching on quickly.

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Post by ladyjubilee » Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:55 pm

Ah, and that no no would be exactly what we need. I want her to go to him as fast and loud as possible.
Pack: Peanuts-terrier mix, 16-18 years old, Bramble-Dutch Shepherd, 3 yrs
Location: NC

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