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PhillipJFry
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Is Grace a Dutch lady?

Post by PhillipJFry » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:57 pm

Hello,

My wife and I adopted Grace in November of 2018 and been learning a lot ever since. The shelter, in the Chicago area, had her listed as Dutch Shepherd and while I know that a great deal of listed Dutchies are other things, I am a bit hard pressed to not see it in her. She's just over 2 years old now and seems to have finally stopped growing. Grace is currently just under 50 pounds and 23 inches to the shoulder. Temperament wise she has a decent amount of drive and locks in on you and the task once you get her going. She comes at everything with a lot of intensity. Not as much as our trainer's Malinois but I don't think Grace is likely a super well bred example nor do I expect she had the kind of upbringing that would make such a driven and level dog. Grace does have some leash reactivity issues, which we have been working on, but that's the only thing that can break her focus when we are working. She also shows herding and protection instincts.

So, what do you think, is Grace a Dutch lady? I tried to include a good cross-section of pictures but I can take more if it helps.

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Good Girl Grace

PhillipJFry
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Re: Is Grace a Dutch lady?

Post by PhillipJFry » Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:08 pm

Here's a short gif of Grace from last winter practicing her ribbon dancing.
https://imgur.com/Cszn2iH
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SEL
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Re: Is Grace a Dutch lady?

Post by SEL » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:02 pm

Beautiful girl! There could be some Dutch Shepherd in there!
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ladyjubilee
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Tell us about yourself: Apparently I just adopted a Dutch Shepherd. My experience have been with Dalmatians. The shelter listed her as a 3 year old Dutch Shepherd, which truthfully I didn't even know was a breed. I picked her because she is so sweet and energetic. But looking at the forum, I'm wondering if I might have taken on more than I will be able to handle. I did reach out to s DS rescue and they say she does appear to be a DS. But so far she's a joy and though not trained is catching on quickly.

Re: Is Grace a Dutch lady?

Post by ladyjubilee » Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:22 pm

Wow she could be Bramble's twin without the broken ear. But I don't know what exactly Bramble is. I call her a Dutch Shepherd mix, but haven't spent $$ on a DNA test.
Pack: Peanuts-terrier mix, 16-18 years old, Bramble-Dutch Shepherd, 3 yrs
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Laplaiefier
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LOL I must be hardheaded and stubborn.
I guess before and after results with dogs tend to show the effort put into them.
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Re: Is Grace a Dutch lady?

Post by Laplaiefier » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:48 am

Sure looks like one from the pics but what about a fore head profile.
She does have a blaze on her chest.

ladyjubilee
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Tell us about yourself: Apparently I just adopted a Dutch Shepherd. My experience have been with Dalmatians. The shelter listed her as a 3 year old Dutch Shepherd, which truthfully I didn't even know was a breed. I picked her because she is so sweet and energetic. But looking at the forum, I'm wondering if I might have taken on more than I will be able to handle. I did reach out to s DS rescue and they say she does appear to be a DS. But so far she's a joy and though not trained is catching on quickly.

Re: Is Grace a Dutch lady?

Post by ladyjubilee » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:42 pm

I've wondered about that. White on the chest and paws is a "fault". But fault does mean "not a _____". Dals with patches are still Dals. I've often wondered if Bramble just is a very "good" Dutch Shepherd.
Pack: Peanuts-terrier mix, 16-18 years old, Bramble-Dutch Shepherd, 3 yrs
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Re: Is Grace a Dutch lady?

Post by centrop67 » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:34 pm

Too much white is "undesirable", but not a full indication of "not-a-DS."

Grace is probably mostly DS, but of course DNA testing (Embark or Wisdom) is the best path to confirming.
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Re: Is Grace a Dutch lady?

Post by PhillipJFry » Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:25 pm

Here's a profile shot of her head from this morning. She was pretty fresh from waking up so she was not interested in keeping her head up for me, ha.

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