I do think it would be quite funny to show up with one one day, because they carry themselves with such attitude and confidence. I highly doubt that is seen in the show ring. It would most certainly make for an amusing day for me. If there is one close by in our area one weekend we are home, I'm very tempted to do just that.Selena wrote:More chance with harley or your new addition
Agree with that, in the end, it is always the breeder that makes the descisions...Christie M wrote: Personally, I will never hold AKC responsible for the deterioration of any breed. Breed clubs create standards, and judges judge based on that standard. But in reality, I think this will just make things more clear. Some people will breed for the show ring, some people will breed for work, but in the end...anyone participating will atleast be breeding for something. And those things will be tangible.
This already excists in FCI, for working breeds there is a "working class" in each show, in this class only dogs with a working certificate can enter. So these dogs will be judged in a group of working dogs, where looks (often) were not priority.Schlussdibusti wrote:May be a dog show should be redefined and judged by the purpose a dog is breed for, i.e. how well is a Husky pulling a sled, how well a shepherd can herd, protect, search, how well a hound can hunt, how well a Shitzu looks on a couch (sorry not picking on the breed - couldn't resist), how well a Dackel can dig holes to get the badger, etc..
I know, it's not possible but it would make more sense wouldn't it.
As for money, yes that would not help the breed. Luckily in Europe, the DS remains pretty rare, and if you want to make money, you better follow the "trends" white shep, choco lab, German shep etc.
Very interesting. I did not know. What kind of "working certificate" are those? Schutzhund, IPO, FH?This already excists in FCI, for working breeds there is a "working class" in each show, in this class only dogs with a working certificate can enter. So these dogs will be judged in a group of working dogs, where looks (often) were not priority.
The Dutch team has mostly GSD.) Depends on the breed, could be IPO FH for shepherd breeds, but also KNJV (hunting) for the hunting breeds. Not sure what else is there, but any FCI working test. Right now there is a group of DS owners doing the official FCI sheep herding test, this is also good for "working class" entrance.Schlussdibusti wrote: Very interesting. I did not know. What kind of "working certificate" are those? Schutzhund, IPO, FH?
Pat C, Spirit, Dutch and Thunder from Ma
Gash...interesting. I somehow doubt that Thuin (where FCI headquarters are) will be happy to hear that an foreign registry refuses papers from an FCI affiliate.CaroleBoaz wrote:The DSCNA does not collect registrations for dogs. During the summer, the club offered to send in registrations for free, but that period has ended. Applications need to be sent directly to the AKC. The AKC will accept any FCI registration except Federación Canófila de Puerto Rico. And once a year the club gets a computer printout of all the AKC registrations.
To make the NHC the 'standard of perfection" when it comes to the breed is horrible and laughable. That is the same club that does not make x rays mandatory for breeding stock, allegedly since there is no problem in the breed.The DSCNA is working closely with the NHC, who is concerned about the number of mixed DS showing up in the studbooks of other countries as "purebred". They had a meeting earlier this year with representatives of other country's registries, who still have open registries for DS, to ask them to tighten up their registration practices for Dutch Shepherds.
Unfortunately, though, the NHC is indeed the current parent club in the country of origin. I am not sure if anything can change now that Europe has had to accept multiple breed registries per country per breed, but that is besides the point. The point is that the NHC is indeed trying to close the gene pool, of a breed that is extremely close to extinction, numbers wise. For example: A world wide population of maybe 500 rough haired DS's spells disaster and I am convinced that only opening the stud book might save that variety. Yet, the breed club appears to be of the opinion that the alleged stamp of 'pure bred' is more important than the survival of the breed as a whole and is merely rallying to increase popularity of the variety, without any talk, at this point, of even allowing inter-variety crosses (as in: short hair x rough hair) let alone crossing outside the breed. And the American "for decroration only" club that affiliates itself with those who are trying at all cost to kill the breed (not save it) are showing their total lack of basic understanding of what constitutes a breed, and what constitutes a healthy population. Nope. Anybody who would want to enter an FCI event, would have to have an FCI dog. No need for AKC.I know many people on the board aren't concerned about pedigrees, and believe that only IPO-type "working" ability is the only thing the breed should do. Those people don't even need to be concerned with the AKC, which is the only American all-breed registry recognized by the FCI. Anybody who wants to enter an FCI event, e.g. the FCI World Agility Championship next month, has to have an AKC registered dog.
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