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Re: Food!

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:14 pm
by bannerd
Yeah, it has pure one, lamb and rice. He will eat that, I'll switch him and give the TOW to the other dog.

Re: Food!

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:52 pm
by Christie M
Or mix it and feed the combo to both.

BTW - TOTW is now made by Diamond and they are having a major food recall. I don't know what all is effected, but maybe research it just to be sure. Maybe there is something wrong with that bag and he knows it.

I used to be a "food for 20 minutes" nazi. But the reality is, I have had some dogs that really just don't care to eat. I can free choice feed them or starve them, its just not a priority and there is no training that brings them through. So for some dogs, I do accommodate. That's much better than a sick animal and a citation for neglect on an emaciated dog.

Re: Food!

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 9:29 am
by Drizlaru
I feed Leo Orijen and Cassy eats it as well. I'm thinking about upping their calories because they are so very active, Cassy needs a little weight, and I think Leo burns off everything he eats in a matter of hours. I'll probably go with another Orijen product, Regional Red maybe.

I'm not going to comment on the vast majority of other dry dog kibbles, because I don't agree with most of them.

Re: Food!

Posted: Sat May 05, 2012 6:01 pm
by Sugars Mom
bannerd wrote:Frustration!!!!!!! Koda hasn't ate in two days. The gf fed him this morning (rice and lamb Purina One) and he woofed that right down. He will not eat his taste of the wild food, the other dogs will eat that stuff with no issues at all. I've separated the dogs and let one eat and then let Koda eat but he doesn't, he walks away (so his food goes away). When he goes outside he's resorting to grass and poop whatever he can eat. I put an end to that as well and just walk over what he's trying to eat and removed the poop. I've witness him sit in the corner and watch the other dogs eat and then he slowly walks in and eats. Which I walk over and pick up the bowl of food. I don't know if this is a dominance thing and he's trying to adjust with the new dogs and gf. It seems like he's challenging me because if I put the food down he looks away from me. If the gf does this he barges right in and eats it. I always make him sit and wait by his food until I tell him to eat.

What I'm trying to understand is why does he HAVE to eat from another dogs bowl. His bowl is loaded with food and he will not touch it. I've left his bowl there once and another dog came over and was eating it. Koda ran into the room and saw it.. then sat there and watched. :yernuts:
I think I remember reading Koda was showing some food aggression?...I'm wondering if you did any discipline while he was eating, and now he associates eating and getting disciplined? So he doesn't want to eat? Just a thought...

Re: Food!

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:59 am
by Drizlaru
Christie M wrote:Or mix it and feed the combo to both.

BTW - TOTW is now made by Diamond and they are having a major food recall. I don't know what all is effected, but maybe research it just to be sure. Maybe there is something wrong with that bag and he knows it.

I used to be a "food for 20 minutes" nazi. But the reality is, I have had some dogs that really just don't care to eat. I can free choice feed them or starve them, its just not a priority and there is no training that brings them through. So for some dogs, I do accommodate. That's much better than a sick animal and a citation for neglect on an emaciated dog.
Diamond food recall has been expanded - Some TOTW products are included in the recall. For heavens sakes, please don't feed him Purina One. Kids like eating candy, but having a candy diet is bad because it's made out of crap. So is Purina One imo.

You want a good dry kibble to feed him? Here ya go - http://www.orijen.ca/orijen/products/re ... ients.aspx you can't get any better then that without going RAW.

Re: Food!

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:50 pm
by felixone123
Drizlaru wrote:You want a good dry kibble to feed him? Here ya go - http://www.orijen.ca/orijen/products/re ... ients.aspx you can't get any better then that without going RAW.
I'm curious, do you prefer Red over their adult dog food? I feed mine the adult dog food.

Re: Food!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 4:36 am
by Drizlaru
I only prefer the Red because of the variety of the additional meat protein sources over the regular adult. Even though comparitivly the adult has more protein by volume. Either one is an excellent diet that is head and shoulders above every other dry kibble I've seen to date, and they are the only one I will reccomend to anyone.

Re: Food!

Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 6:59 pm
by felixone123
Drizlaru wrote:I only prefer the Red because of the variety of the additional meat protein sources over the regular adult. Even though comparitivly the adult has more protein by volume. Either one is an excellent diet that is head and shoulders above every other dry kibble I've seen to date, and they are the only one I will reccomend to anyone.

Thanks. I just need a gas mask - Odin has some pretty stinky, well, you know....... :lol: . My mutt does not have this problem, only Odin.

Re: Food!

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 4:37 am
by Drizlaru
Firstly it should be mentioned that infections, diseases and disorders of the GI tract can cause excess gas production so if your dog has any other symptoms apart from flatulence get him checked by your veterinarian.

* If a dog has excessive flatulence with a foul odor the culprit is likely to be dietary. Change your dog's diet choosing a premium brand of dog food that is highly digestible. Many cheaper brands of dog food contain a lot of corn and soy products for fillers. This gives your dog the feeling of being full, but also can contribute to a smelly gas problem. When choosing kibble select only high quality kibble. It will also reduce the amount of waste product, meaning less gas, and less smell too. Feed your dog the best quality of food that you can afford. If you put rubbish in then rubbish will come out.

* Exercise the dog more frequently to stimulate his intestines. A good walk can work wonders.

* Eliminate Soy Products. Many processed dog foods contain Soy. Read pet food labels.

* If feeding table scraps avoid giving vegetables such as cauliflower, broccoli, beans, peas, cabbage and other foods such as bread and fried foods. Spicy food should also be avoided.

* Avoid Dairy Products. (except for yogurt, see below)

* Try feeding your dog yogurt. Although yogurt is a dairy food it has different properties to milk and cheese. Yogurt has good bacteria and can be very beneficial in treating excess gas. Feed two to three tablespoons of plain, organic non-fat yogurt a day. Look for labels that indicate that the yogurt contains live and active cultures; these are the cultures which help digestion. Reduction in pet flatulence won't happen overnight. Note your dogs progress after about a week.

* Try probiotics. Probiotics for dogs and digestive enzymes help to reduce the amount of bad bacteria and toxins in the dog's body and are used to restore the normal balance of microflora (bacteria) in the gastrointestinal tract. In other words, probiotics are the "good, friendly bacteria" that are used to combat the "bad, harmful bacteria" that have grown out of proportion The result is a cleaner and more efficient digestive system.

* Feed your dog more frequently with smaller portions. Feed three small meals instead of one large meal to keep the dog from gulping food and swallowing air.
Taken from http://www.dogchatforum.com/dog-fart-prevention.htm

Re: Food!

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 8:32 am
by Olie
Olaf eats retail BARF, raw meat and bones (beef and chicken) and home cooked food (chicken, rice, veggies) and i think he farted once in 3 weeks :) His poop is also nice, small and firm.

Re: Food!

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 10:43 am
by Drizlaru
Yep, food quality makes a big difference. Makes vet bills less frequent, any healing can be done quicker, and gives your best friend a healthy quality of life.

Re: Food!

Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:35 pm
by felixone123
Thanks Ben for the info/link on stinky gas smells :lol: He has been thoroughly checked by vet and his stools are normal. He gets no table food or dairy. It's only after he eats his kibble, so I am going to try probiotics.

Re: Food!

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:57 pm
by GreatRembrandt
Rembrandt grew with Royal Canin Junior Maxi, he's 12 months now, i opened today the last package, i think it will be the last for puppies, my old rottweiler and my mali eat Farmina Cibau i don't know if u have in US, i think it's a great product, dogs are very healty and beautiful coats... but i find also royal a good product

Re: Food!

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:06 am
by Drizlaru
Quite honestly, after looking at the Royal Canin Junior Maxi, it doesn't impress me at all. I have a problem with any pet food that lists their first ingredient as Rice.

http://www.royalcanin.co.uk/products/pr ... axi-junior

I am not familiar with Farmina Cibau.

Re: Food!

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:33 pm
by Sugars Mom
I've started trying Sugar out on Evo Turkey and Chicken. Its grain free and has a smaller list of ingredients then the Orijen but is high protein like Orijen. So far she seems to be doing well. Still trying to figure out what she is allergic to...

Re: Food!

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 6:39 pm
by pdlucky
Remington stopped eating about a week and a half ago he went two days without food and had no loss of energy. When he did eat again he only ate about half of his food we were feeding Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed. When he went another day without eating I was getting worried and going to call the vet then he pooped and it was dark and not anything like his usual. So of course I had to check it out and when I played in it I noticed it was just full of this weird dark fibre and I had no idea what it was so I figured it was time to go to the vet. After checking out his poop he was still full of energy so off to the dog park we went. While throwing his frsbee I noticed he was getting a ton of the bark on his tongue and then he would drink some water and swallow it. I picked up some of the bark and gues what they use finely shredded bark, and it had the same consistency as what was in his poo. Now we do not go to the dog park any more and he is back to eating both meals everyday. However I have not been happy with the firmness of his stool so I am making the switch to the grain free Nutro http://www.nutro.com/natural-dog-food/n ... otato.aspx this is the link to the ingredients tell me what you think of it. I am slowly switching him over so I won't know for a few if it is firming it up or not but I will keep everyone updated once the switch is done.

Re: Food!

Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 4:21 pm
by bannerd
I switch his food to "Blue Buffalo" Dog food, it's $70 a bag but everything is meat in there. There is no grains, the stuff smells but Koda literally devours it. I'm going to stick with this, 100lb bag for $70 is not bad at all. The guy I talked to at the store said it was the best you can buy, apparently Koda has an expensive taste.

Yeah I always tell Koda to stay before he eats his meal. The day I bought blue his tail was wagging as he was sitting.. that was a different sign right away. The only other thing that he does this with is chicken and steak. haha.

Re: Food!

Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:08 am
by Drizlaru
pdlucky wrote:Remington stopped eating about a week and a half ago he went two days without food and had no loss of energy. When he did eat again he only ate about half of his food we were feeding Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed. When he went another day without eating I was getting worried and going to call the vet then he pooped and it was dark and not anything like his usual. So of course I had to check it out and when I played in it I noticed it was just full of this weird dark fibre and I had no idea what it was so I figured it was time to go to the vet. After checking out his poop he was still full of energy so off to the dog park we went. While throwing his frsbee I noticed he was getting a ton of the bark on his tongue and then he would drink some water and swallow it. I picked up some of the bark and gues what they use finely shredded bark, and it had the same consistency as what was in his poo. Now we do not go to the dog park any more and he is back to eating both meals everyday. However I have not been happy with the firmness of his stool so I am making the switch to the grain free Nutro http://www.nutro.com/natural-dog-food/n ... otato.aspx this is the link to the ingredients tell me what you think of it. I am slowly switching him over so I won't know for a few if it is firming it up or not but I will keep everyone updated once the switch is done.
I would call it, better then Hannaford. But, your ingredients are a little (alot) off. What you want are different sources of meat protein (not potatoes!). The first 5-6 ingredients, which make up about 80% of the food, is mostly plant matter/protein (Venison Meal, Dried Potatoes, Potato Starch, Potato Protein, Pea Protein). I know I've said it 1000 times, but I'll mention it again. A dogs digestive system cannot process plant matter in large quantities, it is too short. So your dog isn't getting any nutritional benefit from having that amount of organic plant matter in his food. It'll make him poop alot compared to a raw feeder, but thats about it. In one end and out the other!

Now just for giggles, lets take a quick looksie at http://bluebuffalo.com/dog-food/lp-lamb.
What are the first 5-6 ingredients ... (Deboned Lamb, Oatmeal,Whole Ground Barley, Menhaden Fish Meal, Whole Ground Brown Rice, Peas). Well at least it's got 2 sources of meat protein in there, and it's more balanced, making it a higher quality food. But no wheres near the best.

I challenge anyone to find a better dry dog food then this http://orijen.ca/products/regional_red/ingredients
INGREDIENTS
Fresh deboned wild boar*, fresh deboned lamb*, fresh beef liver*, fresh deboned pork*, lamb meal, peas, salmon meal, russet potato, herring meal, fresh whole eggs*, fresh deboned bison*, potato starch, fresh deboned salmon*, pacific whitefish meal, fresh deboned walleye*, ...
You can't beat it. This ranks #1 in dry dog food in my book.

Re: Food!

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:34 am
by Yurkunas86
Luna is 12 weeks and we feed her purina one smart blend puppy formula. Is this a good puppy food her her? She loves it!

Re: Food!

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:23 am
by MinaHerdershonden
Hey! I feed my dog Nutro Ultra Adult or Large Breed(when they don't have Adult), its wheat free, and REALLY good stuff, she LOVESSSSS it and it keeps her fur SOOO glossy, my cats are in the nutro natural choice,,,

They have "max" which is the lowest in the line in quality (they suggest it for transitioning dogs off of shelter diet and on to natural choice and then ultra) they have ALL kinds of "special" ones, high energy, large breed, sensitive stomach, etc.
I know alot of people who feed it and love it.

And most of all she LOVES all of there treats, shes a food girl but they only treats she liked more then nutro treats are my homemade ones! we get the skin and coat biscuits they are her favorite, and the blueberry training treats.

You can get coupons off of the nutro site as well, and its the same people who make Greenies!

Its holistic and has better ingredients list then the lower natural choice
http://www.ultraholistic.com/adult-holi ... ibble.html