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Re: A lesson in Learning Theory

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:28 pm
by Steve Gossmeyer
If a pack of wolves encounters a bear that has cubs and shes pissed and they have to fight and one pack member shows fear and cowers the rest of the pack is not stopping to comfort that animal

Re: A lesson in Learning Theory

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:23 pm
by Dutchringgirl
when Sadie is shaking and cowering in the corner of the couch, neither of my other dogs went to go to her.

Re: A lesson in Learning Theory

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:35 pm
by Steve Gossmeyer
Dutchringgirl wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:23 pm when Sadie is shaking and cowering in the corner of the couch, neither of my other dogs went to go to her.
That's because they are assholes and should be comforting her lmao

Re: A lesson in Learning Theory

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:09 pm
by Dutchringgirl
Steve Gossmeyer wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:35 pm
Dutchringgirl wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:23 pm when Sadie is shaking and cowering in the corner of the couch, neither of my other dogs went to go to her.
That's because they are assholes and should be comforting her lmao
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Re: A lesson in Learning Theory

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:03 am
by TimL_168
Dutchringgirl wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:15 pm they do have emotion, that is not the discussion. Sadie smiles, they love to get attention etc. It is when they are showing fear and we tell them that its okay. That petting them and telling them that 'its ok" really lets them know its okay and not to be afraid , or , that it reinforces the fear response.
I understand the logic and the reasoning. I agree. I think it makes sense to let the dog know that it, itself is going to be ok. And I think you do that best by focusing on you and redirecting.

Re: A lesson in Learning Theory

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:05 am
by TimL_168
Steve Gossmeyer wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:28 pm If a pack of wolves encounters a bear that has cubs and shes pissed and they have to fight and one pack member shows fear and cowers the rest of the pack is not stopping to comfort that animal
Duh.

Re: A lesson in Learning Theory

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:20 pm
by Dutchringgirl
TimL_168 wrote: Mon Jan 21, 2019 3:03 am
Dutchringgirl wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:15 pm they do have emotion, that is not the discussion. Sadie smiles, they love to get attention etc. It is when they are showing fear and we tell them that its okay. That petting them and telling them that 'its ok" really lets them know its okay and not to be afraid , or , that it reinforces the fear response.
I understand the logic and the reasoning. I agree. I think it makes sense to let the dog know that it, itself is going to be ok. And I think you do that best by focusing on you and redirecting.
yes, the redirecting is what we were saying will work, telling them it will be okay, tells them that the fear response is ok, not that "it is going to be ok"