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Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:20 pm
by ICE
centrop67 wrote: Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:18 pm I thought it went to APA this year.
that is actually the new American Schutzhund. They are just getting started.
http://leerburg.com/blog/2019/10/28/american-schutzhund-something-old-something-new-something-american/

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:38 pm
by centrop67
Thanks Patty - there is an HTTPS link to that, so I am making it clickable here -> https://leerburg.com/blog/2019/10/28/am ... -american/

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:55 am
by TimL_168
The sport tracking is cool... Sometimes the lessons for the dog are useful. But trailing over varied terrain; often the scent doesn't lay where the footsteps were. Honestly, I think this is where I effed up my old dog. When I realized she could trail, I looked into and started training IPO style tracking. I think it made it too hard for her, and without the necessary working drive to keep looking, she just shut down when it got difficult.

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 10:56 am
by TimL_168
That's not too say so all that I don't appreciate the hard work that goes into the discipline!

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:52 am
by ladyjubilee
So which method is more likely to actually find what the dog is trying to find? One of the tasks Bramble is going to learn is to find my son on command. I'd didn't know there were different ways to search so didn't ask any questions.

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:07 pm
by TimL_168
That'll probably start an argument :roll:
I really believe tracking through drive is the most effective way to go search for and find something that's missing. Gotta get in to work now. I can get into the reasons later on

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 1:08 pm
by ICE
ladyjubilee wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:52 am So which method is more likely to actually find what the dog is trying to find? One of the tasks Bramble is going to learn is to find my son on command. I'd didn't know there were different ways to search so didn't ask any questions.
With my limited experience in mind, I would say the trailing or SAR is the best method for trying to find your son. The IPO/IGP method is more for sport as we are judged on the dogs pace, form and nose to the ground at all times. It is a big no no in sport for a dog to lift his head and start running toward the target...

Re: ICE - IGP3!!

Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2019 2:55 pm
by ladyjubilee
Ah, and that no no would be exactly what we need. I want her to go to him as fast and loud as possible.