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"Dominance" - the basis of the myth

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:50 pm
by Christie M
This is a great little clip that discusses the concept of Dominance.
I especially like how he explains what those theories were based on. We have devised an entire concept of training and interacting with dogs based on faulty science.

http://video.pbs.org/video/1488005229/

Re: "Dominance" - the basis of the myth

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:57 am
by leih merigian
What a great clip. I had a hard time finding it again, not knowing which section it was in (I alway just hit "recent posts"), but I'm glad I kept at it.

It made me think of a lot of psych studies with rats and such. Put a bunch of rats in a relatively sized space to what the wolves were kept in, and watch the results, then devise "facts" about human behavior based on the rats' behavior in a totally unnatural setting. Sounds just like us :lol: .

Also makes me think of one of my way-too-many pet peeves; the clueless who use dominate for dominant. They can't even get the frigging word correct (can you tell I was just reading the pets section of Craigslist?), let alone actually understand what a dominant dog looks like.

I loved the clip-in-a-clip of that dog asking her owner for help getting the toy down from the bookshelf...

Re: "Dominance" - the basis of the myth

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:25 pm
by Christie M
leih merigian wrote: Also makes me think of one of my way-too-many pet peeves; the clueless who use dominate for dominant. They can't even get the frigging word correct (can you tell I was just reading the pets section of Craigslist?), let alone actually understand what a dominant dog looks like.

Ohhhhhh, I bet those dogs need a "Distemperment" Shot.

Re: "Dominance" - the basis of the myth

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:36 am
by leih merigian
Christie M wrote: Ohhhhhh, I bet those dogs need a "Distemperment" Shot.
...and we're on the same page... :mrgreen:

Re: "Dominance" - the basis of the myth

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:58 pm
by alspyce
Christie M wrote:
Ohhhhhh, I bet those dogs need a "Distemperment" Shot.
I have an ex who could use one of those shots ---- from the end of my double barrel. :whistle:

Re: "Dominance" - the basis of the myth

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:54 am
by Lauren
I am thinking they also need to be "Spade" :roll:

Re: "Dominance" - the basis of the myth

Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2013 11:20 am
by Olie
The video doesnt work for me, but here is another one, newest from Emily Larlham : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIEjuu0STf4

Re: "Dominance" - the basis of the myth

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:30 am
by Boogies
I couldn't run the video but I googled it to get an idea. Give the dog choices and reward the right one. This is very similar to the natural horse training I do with my two adopted wild mustangs.

Last weekend, Rocket and I attended a Groundhog Day party at my fiance's house in the city. The dog's always been a thief and uses his stolen bootie to buy treats and services, like going outside. He doesn't wear a leash often but has to in the city. He wanted to go out and after he brought us several bottle caps and a hearing aid, he looked at his leash coiled up on the table. He's tall enough to reach it easily so I played a game of "hot and cold" with him. He looked at the leash several times as he collected more stuff. Then the light went on and he retrieved his leash. I made a big fuss over him, clipped it on and took him outside.

Dogs love praise but I think finally relieving the pressure on his poor bladder is a reward he'll really remember.

:)

Boofies

Re: "Dominance" - the basis of the myth

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:34 pm
by BarbaraWirts
I agree it quite resemble with the natural horse training..Still in a fix for prior methods and techniques.