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My half GSD, quarter each Lab, Cardigan Welsh Corgi ( per wisdom DNA) She's 50 lbs saddle pattern black and ?(color and black mix like a Tortie cat)

wow, the most gorgeous lab/corgi mix i have ever seen. th DNA tests are all useless when it comes to DS

I'm highly skeptical of DNA tests, we haven't had the "canine genome project" and genetic differences between breeds; especially mixed with rare breeds, would be very difficult and subtle to precisely gauge, it just seems like we wouldn't be there yet, though they are prob getting better all the time..has anyone had more than one? would be interesting to see if they came up with the same result. Someone at my dog park got a crazy result, like yorkie, pointer and mastiff, and the dog looked just like a "rottie with tail"...but who knows...

I hadn't added all the photos I had planned to, when interrupted for family issues(and fun). Here are a few more(I hope they come through). The mini Dachshund is my daughter's dog Dutchie(Duchess).

I wouldn't trust the DNA tests.

From the pictures her fur looks too long for an SH and too short for an LH.

Something to me says a Black GSD.

The saddle pattern and coat are almost definitely GSD, but the hind legs don't have the angulation(sp?). Certain angles the face has a lab look also. But the main body color looks mostly black in photos, but has red-gold mixed in as well as the gray harness markings and britches. Some almost striped areas.

Whatever she is, she is absolutely gorgeous. I do see GSD in there (I am not an "expert" in GSD's, but I have owned 2 in the past - 1 was LH white GSD male and 1 was a black/tan female). I absolutely love the very first picture you posted of her in this thread...love her face and expression. She's lucky to have you!!!

KellaA+dog6 wrote:but the hind legs don't have the angulation(sp?).

The angles of the hind end aren't always over-pronounced. The over-angulated back and hind quarters is seen primarily in American show lines, not the German working lines. Neither of mine had them.

Could be a black mal/Groendael mixed in too. I've seen some fuzzier mals and some of the working groendaels have shorter fur.

I did a DNA test on Sadie,and it came back Basset Hound !! Go figure !

What ever she is, she is magnificent !!!

Dutchringgirl wrote:I did a DNA test on Sadie,and it came back Basset Hound !! Go figure !

She is definitely the tallest, leanest basset hound I have ever seen!!! But hey...maybe that is where she gets her stubbornness....LOL

is Sadie pure-bred basset hound? or is she a mix?!

that means Xander may also be -- which could explain how goofy he is!

Stacy_R wrote:

Dutchringgirl wrote:I did a DNA test on Sadie,and it came back Basset Hound !! Go figure !

She is definitely the tallest, leanest basset hound I have ever seen!!! But hey...maybe that is where she gets her stubbornness....LOL

HA You got that right, She rankes up there with the BH Stubbornness ! Beleive it or not, my parents BH can keep up with Sadie, that dosnt say much for Sadie.

ROFL!!! Poor Sadie!!!
Thalie still wonders where Sadie came from...

Mara stated that there is ''red-gold mixed in....Some almost striped areas.'' there are plenty of DS that are very black, so much so that the striping is hard to read as stripes, especially when sunlight is not hitting the coat in the right way. my Tracer is that way; his stripes have been making a very slow appearance [ more every time someone else sees him, so i tell people he is ''earning his stripes''] and still are only noticeable as stripes in sunlight; otherwise it just looks like a smattering of gold.

as to hair length, Kella's hair length looks normal short-haired DS over the bulk of her body, but is a bit fuzzy around the hind legs and neck which is not that unusual. some of our DS have consistent very short hair and others have regal outcroppings of fur while still having very short hair on their backs, their ribs, the face, and most of their leg area. Riddick is a good example of a ''fuzzy'', very black DS. my TxXander is a selectively ''fuzzy'' red-gold-brown black-striped DS.

were it not for the mention by Mara of red-gold stripes, i would tend to agree with Stephanie re being a Belgian but for one thing: ALL the Belgian shepherds are in the wisdom panel so it would likely appear as such in a report. DS DNA causes these tests to spew out meaningless gibberish, so i believe Kella to simply be the DS she wanna be.