Dutch Shepherd Forum

hello i am looking into dutchies for a future breeder and came upon this forum and i joined to beable to learn more about them dutchies, a bartender i know told me they'er hybred dogs i like dobes and dutchies
name is kenneth go by ken age 25 no dogs sister, had a chilauauwa mix sharp/agressive male now she has a prue bred female chiluawua she afraid of me we'er working on that with her. i have seen soem dutchies around my area. i like fishing ,cooking ,camping ,mtb racing ,went to cullinary arts

Welcome, Ken,

Do you have any experience with dogs? You mentioned that you like Dobes...have you owned one?

What attracts you to a Dutch shepherd at this time?

i have experience with my sisters mutts haha other then that no.

dont own a dobe and making my mind up which to get it depends on if the dog breeds have allergins in their coats. they dont breed dobes that have the temperments i want and dutch sheps have the temperments that i want. i have to go immport a dobe from europe if i want the one i want..

i like this breeder workingdutchies.com

dutch sheps are an interesting dog breed

kennethroth wrote:... dutch sheps have the temperments that i want. ..dutch sheps are an interesting dog breed

What temperament are you looking for? What are your plans for your dog? (Sports, activities, etc.).

Ken,

I guess you live in Australia, eh?

That kennel looks fine from their website, as far as the dogs go.

As a first time potential dog owner, I am wondering if you have any idea what you are getting yourself into in seeking a dog from this kennel? These are very serious dogs.

kennethroth wrote: hello i am looking into dutchies for a future breeder and came upon this forum and i joined to beable to learn more about them dutchies, a bartender i know told me they'er hybred dogs i like dobes and dutchies
name is kenneth go by ken age 25 no dogs sister, had a chilauauwa mix sharp/agressive male now she has a prue bred female chiluawua she afraid of me we'er working on that with her. i have seen soem dutchies around my area. i like fishing ,cooking ,camping ,mtb racing ,went to cullinary arts

Hi Ken,

Welcome to the forum. Hopefully you will find the information that you want here. In the meantime, if you could visit the User Control Center (link located at the top left of the home page) and create a signature with your name it would help a ton!!

Dutch Shepherds are a lot of dog - requiring a ton of interaction, including mental and physical stimulation. I would just make sure that if you get a serious dog that you get with a serious dog trainer! They need a job and a way to vent. If you don't provide them with one, they create one....and sometimes that is redecorating the house....starting with gutting the couch.

well i dont want a family dog, i want a sharp tough dog.

dobermanns do the same things if mistreated they get even or get back at their owners..

i live in califronia usa why ask if i live in Australia?

one problem i have is their is no health testing on their breed stock. *workingdutchies.com*

I have seen both Dutchies and Mals eat their owners out of frustration not mistreatment.. I have heard of the Aussies breeding program and what they put out. I haven't heard anything negative. Welcome to the board.

[quote="kenn hello i am looking into dutchies for a future breeder ethroth"]:
Did you mean you are looking for a dog for yourself to breed in the future? If so--why would you choose a breed you know so little about? This is not a breed for a beginner, and breeding dogs is a very expensive and time consuming endeavor with no profits other than the satisfaction of having done it properly.
IMO after 55 years in GSD's, and 15 years owning a DS. (Damn--now I've given away my age)

Typo: Meant to type 35 years in GSD's

alspyce wrote:Typo: Meant to type 35 years in GSD's

I kinda liked it when you were into dogs for 70 years

Sometimes I feel that old!

kennethroth wrote: i live in califronia usa why ask if i live in Australia?

... *workingdutchies.com*

Um, did you happen to notice where this kennel is located?

alspyce wrote:

kenn hello i am looking into dutchies for a future breeder ethroth wrote::
Did you mean you are looking for a dog for yourself to breed in the future? If so--why would you choose a breed you know so little about? This is not a breed for a beginner, and breeding dogs is a very expensive and time consuming endeavor with no profits other than the satisfaction of having done it properly.
IMO after 55 years in GSD's, and 15 years owning a DS. (Damn--now I've given away my age)

We are being kept so busy by our own DS's and their antics that we would have never added things up to figure out how old you are in dog years which is what you obviously put down for us to see... :dswink"

do i have to answer? lol i am known to get banned on web sites i am at 10 sites now

looking for future breeders as in breeders that i want a pup from.

doesn't matter if i don't know that the breeder is in Australia or iraq or pakistan or china ,i want the one i want. i'll go to north korea if they got the right bloodlines pup/dog.

i was looking into workingdutchies cause they'er dogs can be daul purpose k9's

i will train mine as a daul purpose k9

I looked at the workingdutchies.com website. They are breeding only the toughest dogs from KNPV lines. Some have "WIbo" as grandpa. I would be very surprised if they sell a novice like you one of their dogs.

And who ever wants to get into Dutch shepherds, please be aware that they are extremely smart dogs. Staying one step ahead of them, regardless of what kennel they come from, can be a challenge.
For any and all of us, it is a constant effort to prove that we are smarter than our dogs. I -most often- am not.
You mentioned daul purpose. What purposes what that be?
Of course, If you want your dog to come out of North Korea, I hope you have the funds and the contacts to get it out of the country before it ends up with rice on the side.

vneerland wrote:And who ever wants to get into Dutch shepherds, please be aware that they are extremely smart dogs. Staying one step ahead of them, regardless of what kennel they come from, can be a challenge.
For any and all of us, it is a constant effort to prove that we are smarter than our dogs. I -most often- am not.

..... and I would also like to add that they *think* a little differently than some other dogs

So getting communication right can have a little extra challenge too

( ok , so I'm basing this on my experience with one DS , so maybe I just have an odd one ??? However I suspect from others posting that I don't have the only challenging ' different thinking ' DS )